let's listen to this. >> the domestic partnership law affords some of the same rights as marriage but still is not equal in name or benefits. while putting rights up to a vote is never fair, marriage equality will hopefully make it to the oregon ballot in 2014. this subject is not only interesting but it's also very personal. my family is very close friends with many same-sex couples, especially joel and david and jeff and wade. they have influenced me to go to prop 8 rallies when i lived in california to support the freedom to marry and they are wonderful people, wonderful parents and wonderful couples. >> duncan, you have been with this subject for a while it sounds like? >> yeah. >> and what is it meant to know people who were actually not just engaged in this as a crusade and a cause but actually desiring marriage equality for themselves? >> well, i think they are really brave. everybody deserves equal rights. and yeah. >> rah -- rabbi duncan has set a high bar for all the boys and girls who will follow. do you have any advice for future orators next year? >> well, all of our kids